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Faith of Abu Talib and Hadith

Discussing Non Issues by ignorant "scholars" to create hatred an Disunity among Muslims:

ابو طالب  حضرت محمّد صل الله وسلم کے چچا تھے جنھوں نے ان کی پرورش کی ور کفار کی دشمنی سے حفاظت کی. یہ انھوں نے قبائلی عصبیت ور رشتہ داری ور انسانی ہمدردی کے وجہ سے کیا. ووہ اسلام  قبول کرنے سے آخری وقت تک  گریزاں رہےجو کہ صحیح بخاری حدیث نمبر 222 کتاب 58 جلد ٥ سے ظاہر ہے.

 یہ ایک تاریخی معاملہ ہے اس کا اسلام کے 6 بنیادی ارکان اور 5 بنیادی ستوں سے کوئی
تعلاق نہیں . ہم سے قبر میں یا آخرت میں ابو طالب کے ایمان کے متلائق سوال نہیں ہو گا. 
پھر ایسی غیر ضروری باتوں پر اپنا وقت کیوں ضیا کریں . اگر وہ مسلمان ہو گیے تھے اور یہ حدیث غلط ہے تو یہ معاملہ الله کے پاس ہے ہم کون ہیں .

ڈاکٹر امر لیاقت نے اپنے خطاب میں فضول باتیں کیں جس سے مسلموں کے ماؤں امہات ال مومننیں اور صحابہ اکرام کے شان میں تضحیک کا پیھلو ہے جس سے مسلمانوں کی دل آزری ہوتی ہے اور قرآن کے مخالف بھی ہے . لہٰذا اس کو فورن الله سے معافی مانگنی چایے . 

Muslims have great respect for Abu Talib, the uncle and guardian of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). He was more than the father of orphan Muhammad (pbuh), who always desired him to accept Islam. Just before his death he was about to do so but Abu Jahil refrained him. 

If he had accepted ISLAM secretly as claimed by some, its fine, Allah will reward him, but if he did not as evident form following Hadith, the matter is with Allah. 

The debate is only of historic significance, its not part of our 6 Articles of faith, and 5 pillars of Islam , nor we shall be asked in grave or in hereafter about AbuTalib and his faith. So I feel we should refrain form discussing it.

Dr.Amir Liaqat has gone too far on this issue, committing slanders against Sahaba, and Mother of believers by using indecent inappropriate language. He must repent and seek forgiveness from Allah.

Hadith in Saheeh al-Bukhari:

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 222: 

Narrated Al-Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib: 
That he said to the Prophet "You have not been of any avail to your uncle (Abu Talib) (though) by Allah, he used to protect you and used to become angry on your behalf." The Prophet said, "He is in a shallow fire, and had It not been for me, he would have been in the bottom of the (Hell) Fire."

Also read these verses form Quran:

Allah guides Whom He wills

Allah says to His Messenger : `O Muhammad:

[لاَ تَهْدِى مَنْ أَحْبَبْتَ]

(Verily, you guide not whom you like)' meaning, `the matter does not rest with you; all that you have to do is convey the Message, and Allah will guide whom He wills, and His is the ultimate wisdom,' as He says:

[لَّيْسَ عَلَيْكَ هُدَاهُمْ وَلَـكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَهْدِى مَن يَشَآءُ]

(Not upon you is their guidance, but Allah guides whom He wills.) (2:272)

[وَمَآ أَكْثَرُ النَّاسِ وَلَوْ حَرَصْتَ بِمُؤْمِنِينَ ]


(And most of mankind will not believe even if you desire it eagerly.) (12:103) This Ayah is even more specific than the following:

[إِنَّكَ لاَ تَهْدِى مَنْ أَحْبَبْتَ وَلَـكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَهْدِى مَن يَشَآءُ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ ]


(Verily, you guide not whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He knows best those who are the guided.) meaning: Allah knows best who deserves to be guided and who deserves to be misguided. 

It was recorded in the Two Sahihs that this Ayah was revealed concerning Abu Talib, the paternal uncle of the Messenger of Allah . He used to protect the Prophet, support him and stand by him. He loved the Prophet dearly, but this love was a natural love, i.e., born of kinship, not a love that was born of the fact that he was the Messenger of Allah . When he was on his deathbed, the Messenger of Allah called him to Faith and to enter Islam, but the decree overtook him and he remained a follower of disbelief, and Allah's is the complete wisdom. Az-Zuhri said: "Sa`id bin Al-Musayyib narrated to me that his father, Al-Musayyib bin Hazan Al-Makhzumi, may Allah be pleased with him, said: "When Abu Talib was dying, the Messenger of Allah came to him and found Abu Jahl bin Hisham and `Abdullah bin Abi Umayyah bin Al-Mughirah with him. The Messenger of Allah said:

«يَا عَمِّ قُلْ: لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللهُ، كَلِمَةً أُحَاجُّ لَكَ بِهَا عِنْدَ الله»


(O my uncle, say La ilaha illallah, a word which I may use as evidence in your favor before Allah [in the Hereafter].) Abu Jahl bin Hisham and `Abdullah bin Abi Umayyah said: `O Abu Talib, will you leave the religion of `Abdul-Muttalib' The Messenger of Allah kept urging him to say La ilaha illallah, and they kept saying, `Will you leave the religion of `Abdul-Muttalib' -- until, at the very end, he said that he was on the religion of `Abdul-Muttalib, and he refused to say La ilaha illallah. The Messenger of Allah said:

«وَاللهِ لَأَسْتَغْفِرَنَّ لَكَ مَا لَمْ أُنْهَ عَنْك»


(By Allah, I shall certainly seek forgiveness for you unless I am told not to.) Then Allah revealed:

[مَا كَانَ لِلنَّبِىِّ وَالَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ أَن يَسْتَغْفِرُواْ لِلْمُشْرِكِينَ وَلَوْ كَانُواْ أُوْلِى قُرْبَى]


(It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask Allah's forgiveness for the idolators, even though they be of kin) (9:113). And there was revealed concerning Abu Talib the Ayah,

[إِنَّكَ لاَ تَهْدِى مَنْ أَحْبَبْتَ وَلَـكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَهْدِى مَن يَشَآءُ]


(Verily, you guide not whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills.)'' This was recorded (by Al-Bukhari and Muslim) from the Hadith of Az-Zuhri.

Sectarian violence, targeting Shias


Sectarian violence in Pakistan sparks up occasionally between the predominant Sunnis and minority Shias. According to an estimate Shi'a Islam in Pakistan make up 5-15% while the remaining is Sunni Islam. Among those blamed for the sectarian violence in the country are mainly Sunni militants such as Sipah-e-Sahaba and members of Shia militant groups such as Sipah-e-Muhammad Pakistan. However, predominant Sunni militant groups are often blamed for attacks on the minority Shias (Shiites) resulting in reprisal attacks by them. Since the year 2000, over 2000 Shia Hazara community members including many women and children have been killed or wounded in attacks perpetrated by Sunni Muslim terrorists affiliated with Al-Qaeda and Taliban in southwestern town of QuettaOn 03/03/2013 a power full bomb blast in the city of Karachi in the area of Abbas town killed 45 people and wounded 150 others. The bomb blast destroyed building and set others building on fire. 
All segements of society condemn this carnage and demeand protection of all citizen. Some surmise that exacerbating tensions is Arab states, especially Saudi Arabia and GCC states, funding radical extremist Sunnis and the Iranian state funding of Shia extremists and in Pakistan, resulting in tit for tat attacks on each other.
It is widely accepted that sectarian violence in Pakistan is a recent phenomenon and that for most of the country's history, people of different sects have co-existed peacefully. The development of sectarianism is widely attributed to be a result of financial funding of fundamentalist networks, numbering in millions of dollars, by Arab states and other outside powers inside Pakistan.
A fact recognised by all in Pakistan is that the people of the country are not sectarian-minded. Before jihad took hold of Pakistan and extremist clerics became threatening, there was considerable harmony between the sects. Muharram was not the season of sectarian violence and mayhem. Today, the world understands that the intensification of the sectarian feeling among the clerics is actually a result of a war relocated from Pakistan’s neighbourhood in the GulfThe Express Tribune2012
24 Nov 2012 ... And Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and TTP reiterated their pledge to continueattacking Shias due to their faith. Meanwhile, a suicide bomber attacked ...
www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-144752-Fifth-generation-war

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